I'll Show You Mine If You Show Me Yours

[Cap]

Will you share your Digital DJ setup pictures from the backside (from the angle of what you're looking at during an event)?

[mp3jrick]

Sorry for the posting problems, it's only on this site for some reason, worked when I posted originally.
Maybe Jim can figure this out somehow.
Sometimes the pics come up and sometimes not.

[Cap]

I use an SKB 10x8 Light weight console. The lower section has 2 SKB-VS1 pull-out drawer/shelves.

Here's the front view:



Here's a look from the top:



On the bottom of the SKB are two SONY WRR-802 UHF receivers.

On the first shelf above them is an external DVD/CDR/R/RW Firewire player (left) and an extermal 120gb 7200rpm external Firewire hard drive. The cable between the two is for a Firewire Compact Flash Card reader.



The top shelf has the computer port replicator shown without the computer attached. USB, power, mouse, audio, all remain connected in place.



Here's the computer port replicator connection on the bottom of the laptiop that replicates all the standard plugable inputs (power, USB, serial, parallel, modem, audio, etc):



and lastly, here it is in show-biz operation:

[Cap]

This is my system from the Client's eye view:



The speaker system is the BOSE PAS system (two units, one left and one right for stereo imagery).

Each side consists of the bottom (L1) stand, a 6' speaker tower (2 separate 3' sections of 12 speakers each called cylindrical radiators) and two (B1) sub woofers.

The L1 support stand that sits flat on the floor is also the amp consisting of a 250 watt high end amp, 250 watt midrange amp and 250 sub-woofer amp, all in one. The L1 contains an internal system tri-amp EQ, 2-XLR inputs, 2-1/4" phono inputs, and a bunch of other stuff I don't use and know nothing about.

Specifications? No clue. Don't care. Unimportant because I wouldn't understand them anyway. All I care about is "How do they sound to me, how does clients and guests react to the sound, how big an event can these puppies deliver to, and what makes these so different from anything else anywhere."

5 stars every category.

Trying to verbalize the propagation properties, absolute clarity, incredible portability, internal protection for distortion & clipping, phenomenal room size coverage, etc would be like trying to explain a climax to a virgin. Gotta see it and do it for yourself.

[djron1]

I like the Bose system. A friend of mine is in a couple of bands which he uses the same system. I thing just the towers though. I was wondering? How well do they project to the back of a room when you have a packed dance floor up front? Does the sound get up high enough or does it get eaten up by the croud up front?

[Cap]

The L1 system can operate with out the subs. The system EQ automatically switches into bi-map mode when no subs are connected. The 24 drivers in the tower now handle the entire freq range BUT for DJ application, the bass sucks without the subs.

DJRon1: It impossible to verbalize the sound propagation properties of this system. Impossible. It defies all current realities and contradicts everything previously taken as scientifically impossible.

The largest group to date was just shy of 400 in a cavernous facility with 60' high granite cylindrically shaped ceilings, a solid marble floor, marble walls with little to no sound dampening due to historical restrictions on any renovation. No echo! No reverberation! No residual thump from the subs! Volume was reduced from my previous system levels by 30%. Filled the room with perfect audio, corner to corner with less than 10-15% drop off YET you can stand directly in front of those towers, put your ear on them (or your mic) and it will not hurt (or feedback).

Look fellas/gals., I'm not trying to sell you on these speakers or even attempting to imply that "mine is better than yours". All that's being stated is that this very pricey system has cured 90% of my 26 years of previous sound system woes. Not covered it up...cured.

From a client sales standpoint for those who sell their gear to clients in terms of numbers and size and watts, most folks don't know or care about Peavey or Mackie or JVC or JBL etc and so on. I say BOSE, nothing else, and the product recognition in terms of quality and precision sound and high cost is instantaneous and requires no further explanation. One word. BOSE. In terms of marketing and closure rates, it has already paid for the system. BOSE is my pal.

[mp3jrick]

How well does that all stow and transport Cap?
Cases?
Damage?

Just curious......

I am also not sold on what the average dj recommends from JBL and Mackie.

[Cap]

Rick:
The 6' tower separates in two pieces. One is 14.5 lbs, the other is 16 lbs. BOSE includes a soft paded handled zippered cases for each. The base/amp unit (35 lbs @ 26"x26"x5") has a soft padded zippered case provided as well. The subs (28 lbs each) also come with a provided padded cover but its flimsy (IMO) so I had mine custom made.

Baggage handling depends on what you use. I trailer mine. My entire system fits on two Magliner hand trucks. The equipment is arranged, stacked, and rachet strapped on the hand trucks inside the building. I roll them out and into to the trailer, strap it secure, and drive off. Average set-up time, pull up to driveway to first note is about 30 minutes unrushed, breakdown/packing takes a bit longer as the urgency factor is no longer an issue.

I have one small dent in on tower's face due to improper rachet strap placement (my own stupidity) but other than that, the BOSE provided covers/carriers do their job well.

Not wanting to engage in any remote possibility of an equipment war, suffice it to say that I don't buy my stuff on specs. It's all about how it sounds to me and what issues it resolves. I would never buy a TV based on technical specs alone. Nor a car. Nor a frig. Nor a lawn tractor. I want to see, touch, feel, and hear. Specs are the last issue in purchase determination.

[mp3jrick]

I am in total agreement with actual sound over specs.
The Behringer B300's are a perfect example.

The think that really has me thinking is that as you illustrate the versatility of this system in pretty much any venue delivering perfectly matched sound without echo or reverb.
To fill a room vs. aiming sound at it is what this system achieves and in all venues the same way? You have my total attention.
That is soooo relevant and beggs for the next question.

If we are buying sound and don't have the ability to test in several different venues isn't that kind of like shooting craps?
And we all know that's just not going to happen prior to purchase.
How did you find this system and know what it would do?

DJ's love to diss Bose for some reason.
Everything I own beside dj gear is Bose.
I've seen some guys over drive a room with 802's wondering if they were that deaf or even knew what they were missing.

No speaker wars, just good discussion.
I bought Yorkville because of prior experiences, nobody disses Yorkville.
I was not able to listen to them because most sound rooms don't feature them.
The only other option is catalog, and what is the point of that?
I buy from a local music shop to support them like they support me.

I did buy the NX 750's based on that and knowing the companies determination to be the best, maybe not the most popular or affordable.

[Cap]

Geez, you ask great questions!!!

First, let's address previous "editions" of BOSE. Remember to 402's? The 302 128lb bass bins? Then the 802's (Series I and now Series II)? The banana shaped 502-A PanaRays? The 502-B and MB4 bass bins? All great speaker systems BUT......(isn't there always the BUT ?)

Every one of these previous systems, as do most others, rely on the quality, power, and settings of the mixer and amplification decisions, plus in-line EQs, BBE's, Alesis stuff and everything imaginable to generate "the sound" desired. There was nothing close to one-size fits all configuration, then toss in room size, room acoustics, population, where one is required to set up (sometimes in the most audience awkward position imaginable), and this list could be extended for another two pages.

Not for me anymore.

You CAN NOT overdrive this system. Period. You can distort the sound if you attempt to use other intervening gear (external EQ's, enhancers, and the like) or if your music source itself sucks.

BOSE has finally recognized that it's always been user incompetence that destroyed the clarity or intent of previous models and have removed those fallibilities by building in their own amps, to their own goals, with new technologies and design, to the ultimate pleasures of the listener.