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Old 01-15-2004, 10:35 PM
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OK,

When everyone gets past issues with not liking Peavey - Not liking the individual demoing (which I suspect was an Executive of Peavey "Adam" and not a DJ), and get over comparing the tools to something that is not even used to interface with a computer, we can network...

I was the first individual other than the designers of Gizmo Labs that saw the unit and experienced it's features... I have hands on experience with it and what I have not seen any of you say is the features I mentioned in advance are not functional… The unit is solid and that is what counts…

Calling a tool you have not personally touched overpriced junk is amazing… simply amazing… I know of many companies that dish out blah, blah, blah then when it’s time to produce they fail…

The development team of Gizmolabs produced and produced a solid tool.. We will all see more from them as they have already moved onto a tool called Reflex… They have established they are not giving out blah, blah, blah, they are producing and in our industry is that what we all expect?

We could do as many corporations do and do a checklist of features and see if anything ground breaking was accomplished…

I’ll start… How many CPS DJ mixing tools cross-platform and can be used both on PC and MAC?__________________________________________.
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Old 01-15-2004, 10:43 PM
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Also,

Sorry guys I would like to clear up some miss-information posted on another board and I know they are all reading this thread so I'll post this here for us as well...

The face plate of the unit is NOT plastic... The top panel is Cast Aluminum.. ROFLMAO

I don't want to dish plastic if some company uses it in a new tool, but when I read where individuals say pro-tools are not made out of plastic and I look at my plastic Laptop - Plastic keyboard - plastic mouse - plastic LCD screen casings - and I look again plastic, plastic, plastic everywhere and I use them as tools as a "PRO Product’s for DJ's the opinion baffles me. The unit is solid, it’s not plastic and if someone is using plastic in your CPS I still consider you a professional.. ;o)

Have any of you been noticing a trend where some individuals on other boards have much lower expectations than they expect of others...
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:09 AM
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Jam,
Will you please tell us about Reflex?
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:13 AM
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OK.. so here goes:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>
Peavey PVDJ Digital Audio Interface Features at a Glance…
1. 3U rack mountable
2. TOUCH Sensitive Screen,
3. Integrated 4-channel high quality sound card with both Balanced and Unbalanced outputs (XLR and Phono)
4. Works with or without a mixer
5. Ergonomic and intuitively laid out design
6. USB interface works with laptops and desktops and even Machintosh! Wow, Cross-Platform support!
7. Dual High resolution Jog wheels
8. Large 5.7 inch diagonal Backlit LCD screen
9. Line IN for recording
10. Balanced Microphone IN with level control
11. Simultaneous On-screen display for both decks at same time
12. Shared On-screen Record Case
13. On-screen keyboard (search directly from controller)
Control looping, cue points, mixer from touch screen
14. Includes PVDJ software
15. Open to work with other software like REFLEX mentioned above and possibly others!
16. Backed by Peavey one of the leaders in DJ hardware
[/b][/quote]

1-4, 6, 7,9-13
I see nothing groundbraking here, it merely puts everything into one box. It's the hype and marketing style we have gotten to know from the likes of Apple and MS

5
That's up for debate..

8
That's gonna be fun in a dark room when you're busy.. I know enough Keyboard players who have similar displays and they are less crowded with info and allready unreadable.. I'll take my 15" any day thank you..

14
I would hope so..

15
It's a box designed and marketed to pave the way for Reflex.. While teh sparse info we have now on that looks promissing I will believe it when I see it.

16
Says who? I have yet to come across anything peavey in the DJ scene overhere.. they are next to non-existing here.


Oh and another thing on this autopilot feature:

I have three mp3 tracks without any tags or added info, if I have them autoplay will this unit automix them without loosing a beat? I would be interested to know how this unit would be able to determince where/when to start mixing .. I would assume you will have to set at least a 'mixnow' cue point on each track as well as a 'starthere' cue to tell the software where to cue the track when starting the mix..
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Old 01-16-2004, 06:46 AM
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Paul,
May I recommend you stick with your CD decks, and leave the serious DJing to those that wish to advance. It's obvious that the tech scene isn't your scene. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 01-16-2004, 07:23 AM
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Paul,
Just think of all the fun people could have if the FX board was open to the the kind of conter terrorism you are serving up here.
Oh but I forgot.....its a closed forum and most members have walked away in disgust.
Scratch this.....I mean that....
Is there no one on the FX board that needs your help? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight....there is nothing to fix untill after the next release, because it can't be fixed, I mean FiX'd.
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:40 AM
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To reflect on some comments from the Prodj board, I'll stick w/ RED for the moment..

I do think Jam may have over hyped things a tad...

But, I will keep an open mind and not bash this new item. In fact, it's what all the PC DJ folks been screaming for. Now that it is avail, it is junk. Go figure...


Now, bring on ReFlex [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-16-2004, 08:47 AM
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Paul,

I had no idea you were an FX user… Let me reply in kind…

1-4, 6, 7,9-13
I see nothing groundbraking here, it merely puts everything into one box. It's the hype and marketing style we have gotten to know from the likes of Apple and MS

Ok…First let’s clear a minor detail… And define what groundbreaking is… I really don’t want to debate on the definition of what “It” is if you get my drift:

Definition: [n] the ceremonial breaking of the ground to formally begin a construction project

Synonyms: groundbreaking

See Also: beginning, ceremony, commencement, start


Now, with that out of the way…

#1..... Yes – Others have been making hardware rack mounted components for years – NO groundbreaking here
#2….. No – I have not seen another controller for CPS DJing on the market. If you have please inform me – YES they have broken ground here which nulls your comments.
#3….. Yes & No – Others have utilized this method, however, they have incorporated a unique approach – YES & NO on this one
#4….. Yes & No – Others have utilized this method, however, they have incorporated a unique approach – YES & NO on this one
#5….. What do you mean by up to debate? Lets be specific and not minimize what is your debate?
#6….. Explain to me what other CPS controller offers this… I could be missing one and seeing how you minimized it you must have facts
#7….. Yes – Others have been jog wheel components for years – NO groundbreaking here
#8….. No – I have not seen another controller for CPS DJing on the market. If you have please inform me – YES they have broken ground here which nulls your comments yet again… I have seen the unit in a dark room and used it with NO problems at all… Have YOU? Your personal opinions with no actual experience is blah, blah, blah… Can you mix from the Keyboard players without a monitor? If your monitor went bad in transportation to the gig do you carry a back-up monitor? Do you not see the benefit? Just because you can use it without the monitor is a unique feature and I guarantee you will see a trend of others going that direction.
#9….. Yes & No – Others have utilized similar methods, however, they have incorporated a unique approach – YES & NO on this one
#10… Explain to me what other CPS controller offers this… I could be missing one and seeing how you minimized it you must have facts
#11… No – I have not seen another controller for CPS DJing on the market. If you have please inform me – YES they have broken ground here which nulls your comments yet again. I suppose you see no benefit in this as well ~~gag~~
#12… Yes & No – Others have utilized this method, however, they have incorporated a unique approach – YES & NO on this one
#13… No – I have not seen another controller for CPS DJing on the market. If you have please inform me – YES they have broken ground here which nulls your comments again. I see a trend that you minimize what you know is unique.. Is the glass half full or empty? Perspective is a great but reality is what makes a Perspective “Fact”
#14… I would hope so as well - But even more important I would hope that when any software or hardware component is sold to us as Professional DJ’s ALL features are operational and I would not have to wait months for critical performance errors to be corrected after making a purchase… If PVDJ released a program not ready for me as a CPS DJ to mix live on during an event I would be all over them… Would you?
#15… I doubt you will believe even when you see it…. You have been very critical over the PVDJ controller are you in NAMM? Have you personally used it? Interesting to say the least but… Time will tell.. Also, ReFlex is a whole other tool… Let’s stay focused.
#16… Say’s who? Where is over here? If you have never heard of Peavey I see no need for President Bush to go to Marrs as you are already there… Peavey is a major player in the music industry which does not only revolve around us DJs…

Let me be very clear… The controller will not be for everyone… The software will not be for everyone… It’s ideal for me, but that’s just me and you have never seen me insult the Numark controller, OTS controller, BPM controller or others, because just as with some individuals I know use Gemini mixers, I use RANE it’s personal preference and it meets my mixing style.. As I promoted two new tools were released at NAMM and they were released operational and if an individual wanted they could walk out of the showroom with one and mix a gig tonight which is what we all should expect from the tools we use. Weather you wish to believe it or not they broke into some new ground which I’m sure others will follow…
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:00 AM
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DJ Ed,

You have to like the size of that mega thread [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

Sometime when we meet we can sit and socialize and reminisce on the hype [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

Let's just say - I was not the only person over-hyping – “Someone” new the new tool for PVDJ was coming and decided to advance market another product prior anyone knowing what was coming.. I then decided to spill the beans... Remember, I've known this for what two-years...

What is REALLY funny - Is I did the EXACT same thing over five years ago for another company called Visiosonic.. It was great then but I'm an a$$ now for doing the exact same thing when I was pro-endorsed by the company.
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Old 01-16-2004, 09:17 AM
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Thanks Jam -
Many of the hardcore Visio fans can't see past FX. I bought it, even got the latest update, yet it still sits uninstalled on my gig rigs.. Mainly because of the security crap.

My needs are simple. I like RED. A fellow DJ even seen me use RED and now she wants BPM all because a DJ she is subbing for swears by it and calls PCDJ junk.

I like simple. Simple is good. Simple is simple.

Now that the secrets are out, can you show us screenshots of the software ReFlex or the 'jorgenware'? Is there any more to PVDJ that you can share thats not mention on their site?

Thanks pal!
 
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