May 19, 2003 Website Help & Promotion Chat

[Jim Casey]

Mon May 19 21:03:53 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:No special topic yet...I would like to get some feedback on what info people want on web site design etc

Mon May 19 21:04:16 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Photos on web sites?

Mon May 19 21:04:22 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:yes...you really should

Mon May 19 21:04:22 2003:ed [0/] Msg:hmmm

Mon May 19 21:04:53 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:you really have to watch photos of kids

Mon May 19 21:04:58 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:I see photos of people dancing on sites

Mon May 19 21:05:33 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:should you ask at receptions if people mind if you take photos?

Mon May 19 21:05:51 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:for use on a web site

Mon May 19 21:06:19 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I use a lot of photos of people shot from the back ....or I use photos of family and friends affairs

Mon May 19 21:06:54 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:or long shots that do not really show faces

Mon May 19 21:07:36 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:but that would defeet the perpus of the photo wouldent it

Mon May 19 21:08:17 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:what about edeiting them to blur the faces?

Mon May 19 21:08:39 2003:ed [0/] Msg:like in cheaters

Mon May 19 21:08:42 2003:ed [0/] Msg: wink

Mon May 19 21:08:45 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:not really...a long shot showing a lot of people dancing and having a good time should be effective

Mon May 19 21:09:04 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I've never done that

Mon May 19 21:09:43 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:I still have to lurn to upload them

Mon May 19 21:10:46 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:I was more concerened about just putting the photos there to show the fun

Mon May 19 21:10:57 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:we brought in our own videographer to a Bat Mitzvah we did. The client hadn't hired one and he shot the party and we gave her a copy of the tape with the agreement we could use the video for promotions

Mon May 19 21:12:13 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:are you web tech's?

Mon May 19 21:12:48 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:you can also do tricks like putting a vignette around a photo to cut out some faces and only show those that you have the ok to show

Mon May 19 21:12:57 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:yes

Mon May 19 21:13:16 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I'm a Webmaster

Mon May 19 21:13:59 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Maby you could check out my site and let me know what you think? It's simple but to the point

Mon May 19 21:14:06 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:brb,,,booking a wedding

Mon May 19 21:14:14 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:ok

Mon May 19 21:14:42 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:just put the site here?

Mon May 19 21:15:33 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:yes

Mon May 19 21:15:35 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:www.tunetimedjs.com

Mon May 19 21:16:07 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:I'll be right back

Mon May 19 21:22:15 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:I'm back

Mon May 19 21:23:08 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Jim you there?

Mon May 19 21:23:09 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:OK

Mon May 19 21:23:21 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I looked at your site

Mon May 19 21:23:58 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Long pause

Mon May 19 21:25:02 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:You are mixing fonts (sans serif and serif...It should be one or the other

Mon May 19 21:26:01 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:also the first paragraph on your home page should contain all your keywords. This is more important than the meta tags

Mon May 19 21:26:26 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msgid not know that, I changed programs it must have changed fonts

Mon May 19 21:26:29 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:your title bar should also contain your keywords

Mon May 19 21:27:38 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:I'll have to print this out so I can remember it

Mon May 19 21:28:06 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I see you are near Ellsworth

Mon May 19 21:28:20 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:closer to bangor

Mon May 19 21:28:35 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I own property in Surry, ME

Mon May 19 21:29:04 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Newport is between Watervill and Bangor

Mon May 19 21:29:08 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:WOW

Mon May 19 21:29:15 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I can not believe what I just did

Mon May 19 21:29:24 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:what?

Mon May 19 21:29:32 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I booked a $1099 wedding in Maine...

Mon May 19 21:29:37 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:In FEBRUARY!

Mon May 19 21:29:39 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:COOL

Mon May 19 21:29:51 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:see...it can be done

Mon May 19 21:30:01 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:All thanks to my website

Mon May 19 21:30:08 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:She LOVED IT

Mon May 19 21:30:27 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:web sites work

Mon May 19 21:30:38 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Boy I hope that is a sign of things to come!

Mon May 19 21:31:08 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:where in ME?

Mon May 19 21:31:22 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Spring Hill Lodge in So. Berwick

Mon May 19 21:31:38 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:about an hour from home

Mon May 19 21:31:45 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:great

Mon May 19 21:31:47 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:the other Maine

Mon May 19 21:32:03 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:That will be two straight February's with at least one awesome wedding

Mon May 19 21:32:33 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Randy...I was told that I was nuts for trying to go past $500 for 4 hours

Mon May 19 21:32:41 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I have left them in my dust

Mon May 19 21:32:52 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:Feb is also a tough month to book weddings except if Valentines day falls on a weekend

Mon May 19 21:33:01 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:It takes confidence in your abilities to quote that price for a winter wedding and NOT discount it

Mon May 19 21:33:22 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I hope to get lucky with Valentine's this year

Mon May 19 21:33:49 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:How do I cut and past from this page

Mon May 19 21:33:50 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I KNOW I can deliver for them and she knows it too

Mon May 19 21:34:13 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You have to wait until I post it in the morning on the Live Chat Archives

Mon May 19 21:34:27 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:Matt and I made the move a couple of years ago. It cut down the number of jobs we booked but we ended up financally better

Mon May 19 21:35:52 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:And we are told we charge to much round here

Mon May 19 21:38:25 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Randy...it's all about educating your clients and making them realize a two person team is wirth it

Mon May 19 21:38:40 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:So, promotion, what do you do

Mon May 19 21:38:43 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:And showing them confidence and in some cases leadership

Mon May 19 21:39:15 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Jim it's all about people lousing ther jobs and having no money

Mon May 19 21:40:25 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:But that's politics and that I don't get into

Mon May 19 21:40:32 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:it

Mon May 19 21:40:51 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Nothing to do with that Randy...it's trying to attract the types of weddings you want to do

Mon May 19 21:41:11 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You show people knowledge, they will listen

Mon May 19 21:41:22 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I agree

Mon May 19 21:41:37 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You show them an image...such as my picture on my bio page, they think professional

Mon May 19 21:42:09 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You talk confidently with them, price isn't that big of an issue...most of the time

Mon May 19 21:42:17 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:It's in the way you present yourself

Mon May 19 21:42:34 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:If I had the knologe to set up my site better or the money to have it done I would

Mon May 19 21:43:16 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You probably already have the knowledge...you have a tough time bringing that to paper or in this case, the web

Mon May 19 21:43:38 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:That BTW is why I taught myself how to be a webmaster

Mon May 19 21:43:42 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Hey Brody

Mon May 19 21:43:54 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:hi Jim.

Mon May 19 21:44:07 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:the great thing about a web site is that you can constantly tweak it till you get it to do what you want for you

Mon May 19 21:44:08 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:I stayed home from school today, and got so much work done, it isn't even funny.

Mon May 19 21:44:14 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:We were turnrd down for a weddin g due to price and this couple wanted us because they saw us at a frends wedding

Mon May 19 21:44:38 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:I'm self taught also

Mon May 19 21:44:46 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:do you comppramise your price or hold your ground and louse it

Mon May 19 21:44:48 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msgid you go into the Value of a competent DIsc Jockey?

Mon May 19 21:45:05 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I don;t compare prices...I compare VALUE

Mon May 19 21:45:15 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I always stand my ground

Mon May 19 21:45:17 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:depends...I will usually hold to my fee

Mon May 19 21:45:24 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:of course, they saw us and liked what we did!

Mon May 19 21:45:54 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Then you need to explain to them all of the intricies of planning a wedding

Mon May 19 21:45:56 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:we were just not in ther afordability range

Mon May 19 21:46:08 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:the time that it takes OUTSIDE of the 4 hours

Mon May 19 21:46:17 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Some people just don't have to funds

Mon May 19 21:46:18 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msglanning, music purchases,

Mon May 19 21:46:23 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:meeting with client.

Mon May 19 21:46:25 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:also...I don't refer to "Prices". I call them "Fees". ThAT OFF THE BAT MAKES ME SOUND MORE PROFESSIONAL

Mon May 19 21:46:31 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:me too

Mon May 19 21:46:44 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:oops...sorry about caps

Mon May 19 21:46:47 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:there's a "retainer" and a "total fee" and the "total fee's balance"

Mon May 19 21:46:56 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I stay away from fees...sounds kinda sinister to Mainers...they think of lawyers

Mon May 19 21:47:05 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:sorry that is the way we do it

Mon May 19 21:47:15 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Only use it with retainer (though thats lawyeroish too)

Mon May 19 21:47:16 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:rong wording here

Mon May 19 21:47:18 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:hmmmmmm

Mon May 19 21:47:24 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:but professional trades have "fees"

Mon May 19 21:47:51 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:True...but you've seen Maine...it's a whole different country north of Augusta

Mon May 19 21:47:56 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:lol

Mon May 19 21:48:08 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:haha

Mon May 19 21:48:25 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:i was considering "payment" but went with "fee"

Mon May 19 21:48:31 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:That is the trouth

Mon May 19 21:49:47 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:so brody's about to order crank up stands and 16 feet of trussing this week

Mon May 19 21:50:03 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Wow...thats a lot of lights

Mon May 19 21:50:07 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:another thousanda dollars he doesn't have.

Mon May 19 21:50:12 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:yeah, i'm running like 15 right now

Mon May 19 21:50:14 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Central and nothhen has lost over 3,000 jobs in the past 4 years. Sad but true so price does matter here

Mon May 19 21:50:35 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:i video'd my gig on satruday, WOW my lights are cool :-)

Mon May 19 21:50:43 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Again Randy...you have to try and steer a client away from price and onto the value...

Mon May 19 21:50:44 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Central and Northern Maine that is

Mon May 19 21:50:57 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I am playing twice in your are this year for $899 and 799

Mon May 19 21:51:18 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:caugh 300...400..caugh

Mon May 19 21:51:20 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You should be trying to play the Lucerne Inn

Mon May 19 21:51:38 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:oh yeah jim, i made that price list here it is

Mon May 19 21:51:49 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:495 up to 4 hour wedding

Mon May 19 21:51:59 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:395 up to 3 horus school

Mon May 19 21:52:07 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msgrivate, 450 up to 4 horus

Mon May 19 21:52:19 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:corporate 525 up to 4 hours

Mon May 19 21:52:24 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:all including lights and everything.

Mon May 19 21:52:34 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Good start Brody

Mon May 19 21:52:56 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:on the sheet i typed what all that price included, and when i quote it to a client, i read that list before i even give them a chance to respond

Mon May 19 21:53:08 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Brody...one suggestion...make your websiote easily accessible to those with only a 56 k hook up

Mon May 19 21:53:11 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:i just feel my wedding an private prices are soo close it doesn't make sense.

Mon May 19 21:53:19 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:yeah yeah i know, "designer designer where are you..."

Mon May 19 21:53:39 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:there is very little flash, but he still said he'd make an HTML version and a flas verion buttons on the splash page

Mon May 19 21:53:43 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Weddings should be your money maker

Mon May 19 21:53:59 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Thank's Johnny_Dee for the addvise, I'll copie it from the archives in the next couple of days

Mon May 19 21:54:16 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:OK

Mon May 19 21:54:19 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:but i get more private parties than weddings, and if i can book private at that much, i should. but i do'nt think i should book weddings for any more tahn that, i'm not worth it

Mon May 19 21:54:27 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:i'll see how it works out, and adjust accordingly.

Mon May 19 21:56:17 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:OK...cool...you do a good job there Brody

Mon May 19 21:56:19 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg: [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

Mon May 19 21:56:31 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Ed are you still there?

Mon May 19 21:56:38 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:i try. enough about me.

Mon May 19 21:56:40 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:You've been awfully quiet

Mon May 19 21:57:08 2003:ed [0/] Msg:yup - been wathing my tv window/updating web/updating pdf song list

Mon May 19 21:57:14 2003:ed [0/] Msg:all take up full screen

Mon May 19 21:57:26 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Just to let everyone know...In June...we will be giving away a FREE year of webhosting

Mon May 19 21:57:43 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:hey ...OK

Mon May 19 21:57:50 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:wow. how's the site doing? i see we have a bunch of sponsors and stuff.

Mon May 19 21:57:57 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:TO win, you have a be an active participant in chat

Mon May 19 21:58:18 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:It's getting there Brody...slowly but surely...I really need help with the portal information

Mon May 19 21:58:50 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Prize will be given on Monday June 30th

Mon May 19 21:58:56 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:yeah, i've been wondering about that. what IS the portal?

Mon May 19 21:59:11 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:It is like Yahoo...except for DJs

Mon May 19 21:59:32 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:A page full of categories for Disc Jockeys to explore

Mon May 19 21:59:41 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:that's so cool. oh wait, wasn't that up for a while?

Mon May 19 21:59:47 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:It is still...

Mon May 19 21:59:52 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:not working for me.

Mon May 19 22:00:14 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I haven't pushed it yet because it is incomplete and I want to be sure the information in quality

Mon May 19 22:00:25 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:I may have hidden it

Mon May 19 22:00:39 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:gtocha. i got a "404 not found"

Mon May 19 22:00:43 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:ok

Mon May 19 22:00:47 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:thankls for letting me know that

Mon May 19 22:00:55 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:i didnt realize that

Mon May 19 22:01:06 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:yep.

Mon May 19 22:01:35 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Well...its been a good night of chats

Mon May 19 22:01:46 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:The Interactive chat started slow but went well

Mon May 19 22:01:56 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:yes

Mon May 19 22:01:58 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:THis was a nice chat too

Mon May 19 22:02:10 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Good info from Johnny Dee as always!

Mon May 19 22:02:13 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:glad i could chime in at the end

Mon May 19 22:02:19 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:He IS da man!

Mon May 19 22:02:23 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Linda just got home so got to go

Mon May 19 22:02:26 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:OK

Mon May 19 22:02:29 2003:djxtreme [0/] Msg:good night

Mon May 19 22:02:30 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:Take care everyine

Mon May 19 22:02:35 2003:JimCasey [0/] Msg:See you Wednesday night!

Mon May 19 22:02:41 2003:Randy_E. [0/] Msg:Yes thanks again Johnny

Mon May 19 22:02:55 2003:Johnny_Dee [0/] Msg:OK...Nite all

Mon May 19 22:25:03 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:How can I get more DJ Gigs

Mon May 19 22:31:50 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:Hello

Mon May 19 22:33:04 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:How can I get more DJ Gigs Fast

Mon May 19 22:33:54 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:I hear ya. I'm in the same boat

Mon May 19 22:34:20 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:Have you left any business cards at dance halls or bridal stores?

Mon May 19 22:34:54 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:yes I do have busines cards and why

Mon May 19 22:35:57 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:Sometimes leaving business cards at those places helps bring in the gigs

Mon May 19 22:36:20 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:how about Schools

Mon May 19 22:36:34 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:you can send letters to schools letting them know about your DJ service

Mon May 19 22:37:30 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:What should I say on the Letter

Mon May 19 22:37:57 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:Let them know that you can provide music for school and/or prom dances

Mon May 19 22:38:17 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:Can I ask you something

Mon May 19 22:38:17 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:A lot of DJ's give schools a discount as well

Mon May 19 22:38:19 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:sure

Mon May 19 22:39:26 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:I Charge Only $20.00 Per Hour will I get more DJ gigs at that rate or not

Mon May 19 22:40:29 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:that's a very low rate. although it varies from area to area, it's most common for DJ's to charge at least $100 per hour

Mon May 19 22:41:14 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:is $20.00 Per Hour is that ok or not

Mon May 19 22:41:23 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:Just Wondering

Mon May 19 22:42:16 2003:MrMusic [0/] Msg:It sounds a little too low to me.

Mon May 19 22:43:25 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:Sorry about that

Mon May 19 22:44:25 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:I have a Question

Mon May 19 22:45:27 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:How can I get more DJ Gigs Fast

Mon May 19 22:47:26 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:How can I get more DJ Gigs

Mon May 19 22:52:32 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:How do I get more DJ gigs Fast

Mon May 19 22:59:17 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:this there someone out there

Mon May 19 23:00:27 2003:djsharkbait [0/] Msg:How do I get more DJ Gigs