February 24, 2003 Mobile Madness Chat

[Jim Casey]

Rob_Peters Hi There everyone
Rob_Peters What did you think of Vegas ?
firstclassdj2 Umm.
firstclassdj2 For the most part it was pretty good.
firstclassdj2 Got to meet a few people that I had chatted with on the boards.
firstclassdj2 Some of the seminars were very informative.
Rob_Peters I was bummed that I could only be there for Wednesday and Thursday...
Rob_Peters Hi Billy...
firstclassdj2 I know that sucks..
BillyT Hi
Rob_Peters But I am probably going to Orlando in June..
Rob_Peters Welcome to Chat...
firstclassdj2 Were gonna sit that one out.
Rob_Peters Billy...did you go to the Mobile Beat Show in Vegas ??
BillyT no
Rob_Peters Atlantic City ?
BillyT no
Rob_Peters (Are you planning on it Billy ?)
BillyT I think I've got a job change coming up
firstclassdj2 Hows that?
BillyT re-location
Rob_Peters Oh no....to where ?
BillyT yep to allentown, pa
firstclassdj2 from? to ?
firstclassdj2 Where are yoiu now?
Rob_Peters Wow....
BillyT fro endicott, ny
Rob_Peters Billy, I know some NAME members in that area if you need heelp with gigs if you have to move...
firstclassdj2 I live in Harrisburg for a while and Matt is actually from PA
Rob_Peters WOW....I have only visited there....lol
BillyT I'm from Allentown
BillyT might here something this week
BillyT so any conventions are out for now
firstclassdj2 Well good luck Billy!
Rob_Peters I wish you the best with that,,,,,
Rob_Peters I liked the few seminars I got to go to....
firstclassdj2 I was only disappointd in one.
Rob_Peters Overall, Vages was another great convention for me. However, last year seemed like there were more attendees...
Rob_Peters Which one is that ?
firstclassdj2 Selling and Marketing tips
firstclassdj2 We walked out after the genlteman suggested that we LIE to our customers
Rob_Peters The one with the director of FAME ?
firstclassdj2 Yep
firstclassdj2 We werent the only ones to walk out. I know that for sure.
Rob_Peters Really.....I was not there for that one....
firstclassdj2 It was very disappointing.. The seemed to be spreading the very meassage we're trying so hard to disassociate ourselves from
Rob_Peters As you may know, I work for NAME and had to cram 4 fdays of meetings into 1...kind of bummed I missed so much...
firstclassdj2 Otherwise, the presenters were great.. Matt Martindale, Mark Ferrel of course, Stephan Moore, Scott Favers
firstclassdj2 We bought some confetti cannons )
BillyT I gotta get some of them
Rob_Peters I saw MArk's presentation in Connecticut recently....
firstclassdj2 Us too )
firstclassdj2 we got a great deal on the confetti cannon at the show
Rob_Peters I need to buy a confetti cannon too...
firstclassdj2 half price for the launchers and a good deal on the confetti and Co2
Rob_Peters I was looking at those huge bride and groon inflatables...
firstclassdj2 I wasnt really feeling those.. They kinda creeped me out a bit
Rob_Peters I was looking at the palm trees actually...just kidding about the b&G
Rob_Peters So....ok...to change the subject......what does everyone think about the nightclub fire in Rhode Island last week ?
firstclassdj2 That was absolutely horrific
firstclassdj2 We watched the footage on the news in Vegas, and I was in awe..
BillyT terrible
firstclassdj2 VEry very irresponsible of the venue and band
Rob_Peters I saw it in Philly on my layover Friday morning.....
Rob_Peters The DJ from the radio station that promoted the concert is a friend of mine....
BillyT no pyro-technics for me
Rob_Peters he is still missing..
firstclassdj2 Really>>
firstclassdj2 Thats terrible
Rob_Peters Yeah....it does not look good at all....
firstclassdj2 I just don't know how they thought it was a good idea to use pyro in a club that size..
Rob_Peters So, the big questions for debate and discussion....Will this change our relationship and the way we do business with clubs or facilities ?
BillyT they've probably done it a hundred times before
Rob_Peters It's a finger pointing game....
BillyT I don't think so
BillyT unless you're a pyro
firstclassdj2 I think it reinforces the fact that we need to be aware of what is going on in our surroundings
BillyT that is something I have always done
BillyT I guess that comes from my full time job
firstclassdj2 You never know when an accident can happen even with candles, sternos etc .. You just have to be alert.
firstclassdj2 But I dnt think it will change anything about the way we do our business or work with facilities
Rob_Peters Well...I agree with that.....one thing I have been doing is reviewing my notes from Y2K regarding evacuation and emergency situations...
firstclassdj2 IT never hurts to be prepared and kwo how to handle an emergency..
Rob_Peters true....
Rob_Peters It's very sad...
firstclassdj2 It is..
Rob_Peters Just an FYI tomorrow night, Jim is hosting a chat about DJ safety....
firstclassdj2 We'll keep that in mind..
Rob_Peters I think you are going to begin to see facilities check liability insurance a little are...
firstclassdj2 thats a good thing actually
Rob_Peters especially if you are a recommended vendor..
BillyT the USODJA is now working a downloadable form to use when arriving at a venue
Rob_Peters form, for what ?>
firstclassdj2 I think it is important for people to realize that insurance is an important asset
BillyT it's actually common sense items
Rob_Peters I agree....
BillyT agreed
Rob_Peters The liability as to who is at fault about the pyro should be interesting...
djxtreme Login
djxtreme Hey guys, sorry i'm late.
firstclassdj2 Hi Brody
Rob_Peters Welcome Brody..
BillyT Hi Brody
djxtreme Wow! you know my name! my self-esteem just went up. real up. a lot.
firstclassdj2 )
firstclassdj2 Our favorite 15 year old!
djxtreme hehe. matt AND sherry?
firstclassdj2 Yep
djxtreme superb. so what are we chatting about?
firstclassdj2 VEgas, Night CLub fire
Rob_Peters We are talking about last week's fire in Rhode Island...
djxtreme to tell you the truth, i haven't been to "up" on it. i just know the basics. also, i'm not sure if you've gotten to this yet. but this aroused this question with my parents should i start bringing a small fire extinguisher in a case/in my trailer, to
firstclassdj2 It never hurts to err on the side of preparedness.
Rob_Peters True.....
firstclassdj2 It doesnt hurt to have it.. As long as you know how to use it
Rob_Peters It's a good point...
djxtreme Does anyone do anything like that?
Rob_Peters I have a fire est in my van...
firstclassdj2 We have one in the truck
BillyT if you get an extinguisher make sure you getthe right type
djxtreme I think i just may do it. as for knowing how to do it, i'll read the directions. l figure out a way to mount a real small one in my....no, i'll just put it in a case. a case that doesn't go back to the trailer (even though none do)
firstclassdj2 Make sure you get an ABC extinguisher and have it checked refularly
djxtreme Billy, what IS the right type?
djxtreme there we go. ABC, THAT'S the kind my parents said to get.
firstclassdj2 )
djxtreme It doesn't like....well....cost money....does it?(
djxtreme the check)
BillyT yep it does
firstclassdj2 It does cost a little to get them ionspected
firstclassdj2 but its worth it
djxtreme ouch....maybe fire is okay. JUST KIDDING
firstclassdj2 no sense having one if it doesnt work
Rob_Peters Really ?? I never have paid....just brought it by the local fire station...
firstclassdj2 REally?
djxtreme kind of how it's worth it to carry a spare tire on my trailer, or a spare amp...or speaker cables...or rca plugs...or speakers...or a mixer...
BillyT costs to fill it
djxtreme this whole "worth" thing starts to add up.
Rob_Peters But to have it checked it ok..
firstclassdj2 sure it does.
djxtreme so what does a fire extinguisher and the inspection run?
BillyT depends on size
djxtreme smallest, i'm assuming
djxtreme like the kind you put under a sink?
BillyT anywhere from 12.99 to
BillyT about 160.00
djxtreme well $12.99 i think i could handle. 160, is that cents? lol.
BillyT right lol
Rob_Peters Nice Brody....
Rob_Peters Does anyone remember the thread I put up about the elementary school ?
djxtreme OHHHH yeah...
firstclassdj2 umm.. I dont know i f I do .
BillyT I don't
djxtreme the one about the give-aways, etc?
firstclassdj2 oh yea
Rob_Peters The Elementary school that is beating me up about prizes ?
djxtreme i'm looking for it on the boards..
firstclassdj2 i remember
djxtreme it's STILL going on?
BillyT Oh that one
Rob_Peters Well, the event was cancelled due to snow and re-scheduled until THIS FRIDAY...
BillyT Just opened a party store
Rob_Peters I did too..
firstclassdj2 Rob you got a party store?
BillyT partymakers.com?
Rob_Peters Well, I just found out it is supposed to snow again this weekend.,,,
djxtreme cancelled due to snow, HA, i've heard that one. well, actvually, that is what the co-ordinator called me with 15 minutes before i left. then when i talked to the kids, they said only 75 kids had bought tickets.
Rob_Peters Yup,
BillyT send you rschool there
BillyT oh great minds
Rob_Peters I did...
djxtreme any clauses on your contract about multiple-time push-backs, or whatever.
djxtreme oh well...i can't find the thread.
Rob_Peters I have a No School/No Event Policy that also includes a clause that states that if the event is being cancelled, I must be notified no later than 3PM on the day of the event...
Rob_Peters Otherwise, if I show up and the event is cancelled, it's a breach and the school is liable fo rthe balance...
djxtreme what if it is a 2 o'clock event
firstclassdj2 You knowwith all the clauses we need to continually add .. The contract will nde up being 50 pgs )
Rob_Peters I modify the time based on the start time oif the event..
djxtreme tell me about it! how do you guys print yours out, double sided?
firstclassdj2 I agree Rob.. If we get there or are en route they owe us the balance
firstclassdj2 We actually fit it all on one page right now.. But i don't know how long we will continue to do that
Rob_Peters I just went to 2 pages....
BillyT I print double sided
Rob_Peters I use 2 separate pages...
djxtreme i need to somehow get mine written by like a lawyer...i just have some sample one i found on the net. iv'e looked at bunches of the ones that dj's have on their sites...and i'm going to try to compile them....but i need to know how to word them
djxtreme right now i print (on heavy paper stock) double side. i just started sending it out WITHOUT me signing it. they sign it, return it, and usually never see it again.
BillyT common sense is the key
firstclassdj2 You can use a template and just ahve a lawyer look over it to make sure it works in your state
djxtreme i used to sign it before i sent it. but they could change something, in reality.
Rob_Peters Sign it when you get it back...
BillyT don't forget addendums
Rob_Peters it is so much easier...
djxtreme i'm sure my parents know/ one of my friend's parents are a lawyer, and i'll be able to figure something out...when i get the time.
firstclassdj2 I don't sign it until I get it back... Bur I do have a submitted by line when I put my name
djxtreme addedumdumdumdumwhats?
BillyT I have one for smoke machines
djxtreme that's a neat idea, the "submitted by" line.
firstclassdj2 Cause there are 2 of us doing contracts., we can keep track of who submitted what
BillyT one for bubble machines
djxtreme a contract, or adumdum?
BillyT sign a contract along with addendum
firstclassdj2 We never get to bring our bubble machine (
BillyT we always use it lol
djxtreme i never WANT to. it rarely works, and all it does is make the floor SO slippery.
firstclassdj2 It does make the floor slipperier than I would like
djxtreme the only time i use it is on entrance-ways
firstclassdj2 maybe better for outdoor events.
djxtreme i mean, i would NEVER use it in a school gym, even if it landed on the people first....it'll make its way under someones shoe
Rob_Peters I havefacilities who will not let me use them in my area...
BillyT again I always use it in gyms
djxtreme yeah, outdoor events (i.e. picnics) where kids love it...it shuts em up... untill you turn it off!
djxtreme how Billy?
Rob_Peters I use it when I do ceremonies.....
BillyT by paying attention to the floor
djxtreme i got mine from cheaplights...and hate it.
firstclassdj2 we have an American DJ
djxtreme i put a fan behind it...i'm assuming you do to?
firstclassdj2 yea
djxtreme *too
BillyT I got a bu300 and 400
BillyT yep I use a fan too
firstclassdj2 I think we have the one you do BIlly
djxtreme you need a fan, too?
BillyT to get the bubbles out farther
firstclassdj2 yea, we use a fan for the hazer as well
djxtreme so you dont mount it on your truss, i'm assuming.
BillyT in a gym they reach the ceiling before falling
djxtreme wow!
BillyT I mount on a truss
djxtreme i got a new fog machine (ADJ stallion) and it definitly doesn't need a fan.
Rob_Peters HAs anyone used the bubbles that glow under black lights ?
djxtreme you mount the fan on the truss too, Billy?
BillyT no but I want to
firstclassdj2 No, but that would be cool
djxtreme so where is the fan?
BillyT no fan is on the floor facing up
djxtreme and it still reaches top of gym? woo hoo!
BillyT yep
djxtreme wow.! and what about bubbles landing on your gear...that sucked too for me.
BillyT the fan keeps the bubbles at least 8 feet away
BillyT no problem with equipment
djxtreme man..i hate that thing. anyone wanna buy it? hehe.
firstclassdj2 Does anyone have a snow machine?
firstclassdj2 We were thinkin about that for winter parties etc..
BillyT I use the bubbles and strobes and thats all the crowd usally wants
BillyT i hate that foru letter word
djxtreme i LOVE it.
BillyT I want a foam machine
firstclassdj2 Foam I would imagine can be a HUGE liability
BillyT yea
djxtreme i live for skiing.. anyways, on Pr*d*.com there is a thread about foam machines.
djxtreme i'll put it this way...no one said anything but bad about them.
djxtreme they sure do look like fun though!
firstclassdj2 Oh yea, foam parties are a blast!
djxtreme and snow machines make no mess? i'll believe that when i see it. but either way, they both look fun.
Rob_Peters They don't Brody...
firstclassdj2 i wasnt concerned about mess
Rob_Peters and they are fun
firstclassdj2 I was concerned about head injuries after they slip and fall in the foam
BillyT l-i-a-b-i-l-i-t-y
firstclassdj2 b i g t i m e
djxtreme my next big purchases as always, bigger sound system, more lighting, crank stands, truck for my trailer, VIDEO DANCE SYSTEM...bottles of water. hehe
djxtreme $m o n e y$ however, they really aren't that expensive
firstclassdj2 We saw some AWESOME video stuff in Vegas
djxtreme firstclass, is your hazer very loud?
firstclassdj2 Nope. not reallu
djxtreme you like it more than fogger?
firstclassdj2 you cant hear it over the music anyway
firstclassdj2 Yea.
Rob_Peters BTW....I am getting financing in order for Video Equipment...
firstclassdj2 dipsertion is way better
firstclassdj2 doesnt impede vision
BillyT my bubble machine sounds like a jet engine
djxtreme because i've heard they are very loud. but with my new fogger, you could actually hear it over the music.
firstclassdj2 Fog sucks.
djxtreme mind you, by no means do i have the biggest sound gear, but i have a log system.
BillyT what video equipment
djxtreme really Billy? wow. this is getting weird. my bubble machine is silent. maybe that's why it sucks.
djxtreme That's cool Rob. It's a big purchase (the music, mainly) and i didn't realize how big projectors were, money wise!
firstclassdj2 Yea, we def wanna do vidoe at some point
Rob_Peters Music Video...
Rob_Peters I am looking at a projector first...
BillyT from Promo?
Rob_Peters No....looking at a used piece from EBay...
BillyT okay
Rob_Peters but the rest from Promo...yes...
BillyT financing available
BillyT Promo
Rob_Peters Promo Only does financing ?
BillyT I see Casey made the DJ Times
BillyT yep
firstclassdj2 For?
BillyT at leaast that's what they advertise
BillyT an article about low-ballers
firstclassdj2 ??
Rob_Peters I had no idea...
BillyT it's on the Promo website
Rob_Peters (About both)
BillyT lol
djxtreme cougmecough just kidding. i just booked 375 for 3 hour college dance this evening. i quoted 425..but i knew the person booking it. and its a fundraiser for the deaf.
Rob_Peters I was wondering how much the rest of it cost ?
BillyT I loked about a month ago and I think it was something 5400.00 for everything
BillyT look
Rob_Peters Wow....
djxtreme including videos?
BillyT no
Rob_Peters the most expensive piece, oter than the music is the projector..
BillyT yep
BillyT now that was for a big screen
djxtreme where do you START for music. promo only's classic series, then just subscribe to them nmontly?
BillyT 110"
djxtreme i never realized screens and projectors were the expensive part...WOW for projectors.
Rob_Peters I found a company that makes a screen that does both front and rear projection...
BillyT wow
BillyT Rob, I'm looking for the financing page now
Rob_Peters cool...send me the link...
Rob_Peters I am looking for a projector to go with me for Game Show...so I can do a multi Media Presentation..
firstclassdj2 Hey guys! I think I'm out ) Have a great NIGHT!
BillyT good night
djxtreme good night. good talking to you Matt and Sherry!
firstclassdj2 Thanks brody!
firstclassdj2 cya
djxtreme Actually, i have school tomorrow...i better go too.
BillyT good night
Rob_Peters 'Night....