234 JimCasey Tonight we will be talking about Meta Tags
240 JimCasey Why they are important
246 BillyT Why Jim?
250 BillyT lol
325 Randy are they needed on each page?
344 BillyT I use them on each page
353 BillyT copy and paste
355 JimCasey It is one of the keys to getting found on the internet...yes Randy, I think they should be on every page
422 JimCasey Better suggestion and quicker Billy...
518 BillyT I try to use words that describe what the page is about
520 JimCasey Do a page and then cut and paste the text on each page with the same meta tags
535 BillyT Yea except as above
558 BillyT I cut and paste and then change some of the words
628 BillyT Sometimes I use exact words and somtimes I use broad words
638 JimCasey First and foremost, make sure the first six-eight words trget your marketplace
638 BillyT Like contract
654 BillyT right Jim
706 JimCasey Look at
www.djmaine.com
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712 JimCasey Hi Johnny Dee
715 BillyT Hello Jonny
719 johnny_dee Hi
745 JimCasey See how I have Maine Wedding Disc Jockey as my title...
753 Randy What program do you user
757 JimCasey my marketpkace, clearly stated
821 BillyT I even have my logo on the address line
843 JimCasey My meta tag keywords...dj, maine, wedding, disc, jockey, New Hampshire
853 JimCasey Again, marketplace clearly stated...
907 JimCasey Larger markets wll use just citites such as Johnny Dee I would guess
930 BillyT Randy I use coffee cup for my website
951 Randy I have something called wsftpwsftp95 as my program
952 BillyT version 9.3 costs 49.00
953 johnny_dee I don't put cities in my meta tags. There's too many to list
957 JimCasey Front Page 2002 for mine
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013 BillyT Hello Art
020 JimCasey That's true Johnny...you can embed them in a graphic though with the same effect
022 artdj Hi everyone
034 Randy I have Front Page I think also
039 Randy Hi
042 JimCasey go to
www.djmaine.com and just mouseover the Jim Casey's logog
045 JimCasey Hey Art
058 artdj Ok
103 johnny_dee yes...spiders will pick up ALT tags in an image
119 JimCasey I take full advantage of those
134 JimCasey Why I am abl to be found very easily in many instances
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147 JimCasey QueryUser Query
151 BillyT Hi Jon
153 artdj Hey
154 JimCasey Hello Jon
159 JimCasey Where in maine are you?
159 BillyT Why JIm?
159 Jon_Doe Hello
200 BillyT lol
229 Jon_Doe What is the topic in here tonight?
229 artdj Is there a Jane Doe with you?
233 Jon_Doe Nope
238 JimCasey I use all tags in as many places as possible
240 artdj Sole survivor
245 BillyT Meta Tags
248 JimCasey brb
249 Jon_Doe I see
253 artdj excuse me...soul survivor
317 Jon_Doe I use meta tags everywhere, but search engines are looking for much more than the tags now a days.
327 BillyT I also submit my website monthly to the search engines
339 artdj Is it expensive, Billy?
353 BillyT I make sure its free
355 Jon_Doe You can submit for free, alot of good software out there
358 BillyT lol
411 Randy Where
414 Jon_Doe I like pay per click, direct, targeted, inexpensive if you do it right
421 JimCasey That is true Jon, but you certainly need them
440 johnny_dee We use dynamic Submission software and submit once a month
451 Jon_Doe I use Submit Wolf
505 BillyT I have lots of time so I submit myself
541 JimCasey I submit once a quarter...
554 artdj What about Good of Evil...and Direct Catering?
600 Jon_Doe once a quarter is perfect
611 Jon_Doe once a mopnth is too much
615 Jon_Doe "month"
635 JimCasey That is the suggestion on the web, but I think you can HURT your ranking by submitting too much'
636 Jon_Doe some search engines will ban you for submitting more than once every 60 days
703 artdj Sorry, I mean Good or Evil Yellow Pages.
719 JimCasey lol @ Art
728 BillyT Gotta go I'll chat with evryone next week
732 Jon_Doe what are your web sites?
734 JimCasey OK Billy,,,,
734 artdj by billy
738 JimCasey see you next week
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829 johnny_dee
www.ambassdj.com
840 artdj Was Billy doing all the talking?
842 JimCasey
www.djmaine.com
847 ed Login
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853 Jon_Doe nice flash
856 JimCasey Hi Ed
904 artdj Hello Ed
904 JimCasey Johnny I LOVE your redesign
907 ed Hey Hey Hey
910 johnny_dee thanks
922 Jon_Doe who did your flash?
932 johnny_dee I did it myself
954 Jon_Doe Very nice site
010 ed QueryUser Query
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042 JimCasey oops
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047 ed Login
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048 JimCasey lost a couple
050 Jon_Doe [-1/johnny_dee] MMPrvcan i ask a question?
052 JimCasey lost a few
055 ed oops
056 JimCasey wb ed
101 johnny_dee [-1/Jon_Doe] MMPrvFlash etc. every day
112 ed Wong button wabbit
117 Jon_Doe [-1/johnny_dee] MMPrvWhere did you get the spotlight effect?
122 johnny_dee I'm a webmaster during the day at a dot.com company so I work with Flash every day
143 ed And your very good at too John
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151 JimCasey wb Randy
207 ed say Hi to Mat next time you see him
216 johnny_dee Hey Ed
234 ed I wondered when you would figure it out ????!!!!!!
242 ed )
258 Randy Randy E. Tried to see his web sitye and got bumped or something
259 suavedigital Login
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313 JimCasey Hi suave
314 JimCasey welcome
316 artdj Login
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316 suavedigital hi
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352 ed Well I just dropped in for a second to say hi to all. Everyone have a good night.
357 Jon_Doe Logout_
358 JimCasey nite ed
401 ed Logout_
405 artdj Had to look at ambass web site. Looks great
412 JimCasey Tonight we have been talking about meta tags and their importance
419 JimCasey Isn;t his site awesome
419 suavedigital ic
428 johnny_dee thanks
429 JimCasey I need a redesgin Johnny Dee
431 artdj Superb!
435 JimCasey Mine is getting old to me
435 SureGlow Login
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440 JimCasey Welcome Dan
446 Randy Logout_
446 SureGlow Good Evening
501 JimCasey suave...what is your URL?
508 suavedigital suavedigital.com
512 artdj Got to go. See you all again soon. Bye
517 suavedigital my site is down right now
527 suavedigital i am putting on a few new features
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535 JimCasey What kind of features?
548 Randy Login
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554 suavedigital well i can give you a preview of my music database that i am working on
614 Randy I just can't get there I guess
617 JimCasey ok
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701 suavedigital
www.x-scooby.com/suave/music.asp
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734 djxtreme hey there. here for a little bit (also on the ProDJ chat..shhhh)
740 JimCasey welcome xtreme
745 JimCasey thats cool
815 djxtreme but they're never on topic, so it doesn't even matter.
817 JimCasey That looks nice suave!
840 suavedigital thank you
842 JimCasey Suave...what area are you located?
900 suavedigital Pittsburgh
904 djxtreme This is website, correct?
912 JimCasey Yes xtreme
919 JimCasey we are talkign mata tags, title tags
943 djxtreme okay, well, i have the meta tags, and i'm in wedj.com and partypros.com......i have gotten ZERO leads from what i consider to be my quite intense site ( i know the content is lacking...NOT my fault!)
946 JimCasey and bad spelling
026 ed Login
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030 johnny_dee wedj.com does very well for us
041 djxtreme wish i could say the same. is that mainly/all weddings?
058 JimCasey One thing I would suggest suave is to look over what market you want to capture and have that as the first 4-6 words of your title and 6-8 words of yout meta tags keywords
059 Randy We get leads from there also. Got one today in fact
116 johnny_dee mixed...we have the Gold program
121 djxtreme not my main market-hence the reason i just did it quickly, without really thinking, and for free.
123 JimCasey wedj does great for me too...a bit slow the past few weeks until THREE today
130 Randy Free for us
132 djxtreme THREE!? sheesh.
146 djxtreme i mean, i believe my site DOES come up when searched for cleveland dj's, or whatever.
147 JimCasey Yes...it is important to get seen in as many places as possible
155 djxtreme is it mostly weddings?
218 JimCasey Yes
224 djxtreme {note, proDj is talking about american idol in their, something OTHER than TV CHAT!} STAY HERE
229 johnny_dee mostly weddings...but also sweet 16, Mitzvahs etc
236 djxtreme i've heard ONE instance of someone booking a school dance.
238 ed my free wedj acct gets me a few leads but no takers
250 JimCasey I would say that is you are targeting proms etc, wedj may not do an awesome job
303 djxtreme i'm thinking about getting into mitzvahs, once i do one i think i will add a WHOLE section to my site for that. but that's a ways in the future.
306 JimCasey Is this Ed from MD?
335 djxtreme and i'm GONE from the stupid chat. (sorry)
344 djxtreme jim, have you looked at my meta tags?
358 JimCasey what is your site again Brody?
414 djxtreme this is waht i suggested my designer to add
415 djxtreme Brody's Xtreme Sounds, Brody's Extreme Sounds, DJ, D.J., mobile dj, mobile d.j., disc jockey, mobile disc jockey, disk jockey, mobile disk jockey, ohio, cleveland, chesterland, geauga county, entertainment, northeast ohio, northeastern ohio
424 JimCasey Ok...mistake #1
428 djxtreme
www.brodysxtremesounds.com
436 JimCasey Take YOUR name off
451 djxtreme this is what a program suggested i add
459 JimCasey second...forget d.j.
503 ed yup - the one and only
515 djxtreme really? why's that?
525 JimCasey people don;t search for "Mobile Disc Jockey"
531 djxtreme why wouldn't they?
534 djxtreme makes sense to me.
540 JimCasey they will search for cleveland dj
544 JimCasey or ohio dj
551 JimCasey djs in cleveland
603 JimCasey Mobile Disc Jockey is not commonspeak
618 JimCasey That is how you need to approach titles and meta tags
630 suavedigital interesting
633 djxtreme okay. that brings up another point, since i design NOT my own site, and i have someone do it, i dont know how this works will " dj, cleveland, ohio" all come up with cleveland dj ohio dj and cleveland ohio,etc? or will cleveland dj only come up with
635 djxtreme celveland dj
704 JimCasey you will do better with that combination in ANY order...
726 Randy It will hit them all won't it?
728 djxtreme so individual words can compbine?
731 JimCasey dj, cleveland, wedding, ohio, disc jockey, prom
733 JimCasey YES
740 djxtreme awsome. i'll re think this
745 JimCasey Example...
756 JimCasey You have cleveland, ohio, dj
807 JimCasey Competitor has dj, ohio, cleveland
818 JimCasey SOmeone searched cleveland dj
821 djxtreme so i'm going for schools, but i'd like my name to get out there for everything, try something like (ques-tion) school dj, school d.j., or just like school, entertainment, or just like school, ohio, dance?
834 JimCasey YOU will show first because of the order...
837 djxtreme i see.
856 JimCasey The opposite would be the same if someone searched dj, cleveland
907 JimCasey You would be behind the competitor
907 djxtreme so what would YOU suggest for my meta tags, mainly school dances (i consider you the website exep-ert, as i know you get much of your business there, jim)
911 suavedigital what should my meta tags be
935 suavedigital i never even tohught about it till now
941 JimCasey I always suggest starting with either dj or disc jockey...
947 djxtreme another thing do meta tags automatically submit you in search engines? cuz i can NEVER find myself
953 djxtreme i thoguht you said forget dj....
954 JimCasey Then city or state target
003 JimCasey NO xtreme
006 djxtreme oh...w/periods
009 JimCasey you have to do that yourself
021 Randy HOW
024 JimCasey Example my site
040 JimCasey dj, maine, wedding, disc jockey, portland
053 JimCasey For Brody
055 johnny_dee their spiders (robots) will eventually get to you if you don't submit
113 JimCasey Yes, but it is a MUCH slower process
123 johnny_dee exactly
132 JimCasey It is best to be agrressive with that as Johnny and I are
134 JimCasey am
135 djxtreme dj, disc jockey, disk jockey, northeast ohio, northeastern ohio, ohio, cleveland, geauga, lake, erie, county, school dance, school dances, prom, homecoming, proms, homecomings, teen dance, teen dances, sweet 16, sweet 16s?
144 JimCasey Better...
149 JimCasey Try...
202 djxtreme because i'd still love my name to come up everywhere
JimCasey dj, cleveland, prom, ohio, erie, dance
226 djxtreme you REALLY think that'll cover it.?
232 JimCasey More than that...
239 Randy got to go talk later
241 JimCasey the first six-eight words count a lot
245 JimCasey ok randy
250 Randy Logout_
312 johnny_dee even if you submit now it can take months for some engines to pick you up
312 djxtreme do plurals matter?
328 JimCasey Thats true...search engines are overwhelmed
331 djxtreme i swear i submitted mine through my designer's site a FEW tiems now
336 djxtreme which maybe ishouldn't have
340 JimCasey plurals are usually ignored
347 djxtreme so i shouldn't have dance and dances?
355 JimCasey dance will cover it
406 JimCasey You can embed keyword into your images as well
412 JimCasey go to
www.djmaine.com
418 JimCasey mouseover my logo
434 djxtreme my deisnger, as i look at my page source, has caps and lowercase for the same words
434 JimCasey Another way to add more keywords in a different location
443 JimCasey thats useless
450 JimCasey go all lowercase
458 johnny_dee also lower case will pick up lower and uppercase searches but if you use uppercase in your tags there has to be an exact match
507 djxtreme interesting
533 JimCasey Johnny makes my job so much easier! )
547 johnny_dee LOL
551 djxtreme will "school dance" cover simply dance?
611 JimCasey I think you could separate the two and cover it
707 djxtreme cleveland, dj, disc jockey, ohio, disk jockey, dance, school, homecoming, prom, sweet 16, teen, teen-ager, then all the words like "music, fun, energy"?
717 JimCasey suave what market are you argeting?
718 ed i use to be tops - now sponsored links bump me down
738 JimCasey forget disk jockey
750 johnny_dee actually ...having good tags is no guarantee you will be picked up by some search engines. Many look at other factors
751 JimCasey or make it later
752 suavedigital Mainly teen stuff
753 djxtreme good, i don't like it. but i mean, it doesn't hurt to HAVE it does it?
755 suavedigital and wedding
806 JimCasey Have it later
820 JimCasey One example of others...
827 JimCasey Look at the intro on
www.djmaine.com
908 JimCasey After 7 words...Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Massachusetts with disc jockey entertainment
917 JimCasey most of the big keywords
934 JimCasey Some search engines like to see the keywords as part of your text too!
957 JimCasey Just remember, you can only do so well on certain engines
001 johnny_dee exactly...some search engines ignore tags and look at your first paragraph for the keywords
002 djxtreme i see. interesting. because i mean, hypotheticaly, someone could just put liek the whole dictionary in their meta tags
015 JimCasey You can NOT be #1 with EVERY keyword on every engine
100 JimCasey Focus on what you believe will bring in the business you WANT
108 johnny_dee probly only your first 6 keywords are looked at
120 johnny_dee in a meta tag
127 JimCasey And what search engines can deliver it...
137 djxtreme WEll thanks guys ;-)
146 JimCasey ok Brosy
150 JimCasey Brody
204 suavedigital Logout_
216 JimCasey Yeah the sponsored links hurt Ed but we need to learn to live with them
JimCasey its the new wave
ed yup
248 ed i fig some folks might be turned off by them
250 ed i am
257 johnny_dee that's why I have been paying to go on them..It's the only way
213 JimCasey Whcih ones do you use Johnny?
239 djxtreme SHOOT guys, sorry, mommy says its time for bed. i
243 JimCasey ok
248 JimCasey take care Brody
252 djxtreme oh, BTW, i dont think you guys on this board know i got my trailer!
252 JimCasey see you on the boards
259 JimCasey GREAT!
200 johnny_dee WeDJ, Respond, Gigmasters, Barmitzvah Find it, ProDJ
203 JimCasey We need pics
205 djxtreme and my first sub (mackie 1500)
206 ed must be nice to be young )
213 djxtreme they're taken, but i can't figure out how to post them!
227 djxtreme how is spending 3000 dollars at the age of 15 NICE!?
228 djxtreme lol
249 JimCasey I am doing WeDJ Gold, Gigmasters, Pro DJ, Partypros, and I did Wedding Manor and Party-pop...both were a waste
255 djxtreme so i'm doing a large school dance (not many kids, but huge gym) on saturday, i've played there before, but nwo i'm on stage, and more kids-hopefully the sub will help
255 ed hey - u have a bright future as a dj ahead of u
616 JimCasey Pics need to be on your site Brody (hidden page)
618 ed plus the expereience of us 'vets'
634 JimCasey Does respond do well for you Johnny?
637 djxtreme thanks Ed -) i'm customizing my trailer with dad this week, putting in d-rings to tie stuff down.
643 johnny_dee we just started with Gigmasters. ProDJ hasn't done much for us
659 JimCasey Same her, but its only $5 a month
701 johnny_dee Respond has been good
712 JimCasey Price Shoppers on respond here
727 djxtreme shoot...i have to email my web deisnger AGAIN for a picture page...he's going to shoot me! anyways, later guys! i have to go talk to my self about how i just spent 3000 dollars, like i do EVERY night.
728 JimCasey Mostly the I have a DJ for $350 for 5 hours, can you do better crap
734 ed but what about the quality of leads - last thing i need is to bring more YP leads to my site
743 johnny_dee I think it cost us $200. or $300. for ProDJ
749 djxtreme thanks again, bye -)
752 ed nite
754 JimCasey Really???
758 djxtreme Logout_
821 johnny_dee yeah...we have to weed out those leads also
845 JimCasey I hate how you bid for EVERY gig on respond and gigmasters
934 johnny_dee yes...you have to be real quick on respond if you want the lead
952 JimCasey I have seen that
007 JimCasey WOW you can get lost in the crowd for Connecticut Djs easily
013 JimCasey on Pro DJ and WeDJ
021 johnny_dee I was considering DirectCatering until their price went up to $2.00 a lead
046 JimCasey $2 a lead...they are nuts
055 johnny_dee exactly
058 JimCasey I didn't bother
119 JimCasey We now have a new one called discjockeysonline.com
138 ed whats a consumer to do? too many choices
149 johnny_dee that's true Ed
152 JimCasey Yes, thats why you need to flood the web with your info
206 JimCasey and make wise choices where to spend your web dollars
216 ed well, i'm getting my hosting for free
218 JimCasey Stay away from 121 ltd
ed ditto
224 JimCasey partypop
228 ed dbl ditto
242 JimCasey wedding manor may do well in big cities
250 JimCasey theknot is a questionable one too
253 ed i'm on theknot.com for 6 months
256 JimCasey as well as modern bride
304 johnny_dee how's the Knot
305 ed booked my first knot wedding
318 JimCasey the knot...$75 a month
319 ed so the 6m is paid for
326 JimCasey Modernbride.com is $1000 a yer for a link
327 ed well, i got in b4 the rate increase
339 ed name special no longer
403 JimCasey Theknot is not (lol) a factor in Maine, they hit the large citites
410 JimCasey DO you use the knot at all johnny?
410 johnny_dee I've stayed away from just wedding ones and put our money into sites that pick up all kinds of work...except for Bar Mitzvah Find It
432 JimCasey nota bad way to go
439 ed i would rather target upscale weddings - the ones that don't want toys n stuff
447 JimCasey most of the all wedding sites encourage bottom feeders
506 johnny_dee I'm not on the Knot
507 ed we have a real luzer here in md
606 ed http//www.djgreyhound.com/
611 JimCasey Well...this was a great chat tonight...
619 JimCasey Johnny awesome as always...
629 JimCasey would you like to moderate the chat at some point?
630 johnny_dee yes...I enjoyed it
639 johnny_dee sure
650 JimCasey You do a great job and I could use the reief
653 JimCasey relief
712 johnny_dee just let me know when you need help
726 JimCasey Cool...what if we alternated weeks?
742 JimCasey When you can
747 johnny_dee sounds good
755 JimCasey cool...start next week!
February 4, 2003 Website Help & Promotion Chat
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